Lip and Tongue Ties: How to check for one, Revision Tips, and Post-Revision Aftercare

I am writing this post because lip and tongue ties are apart of our breastfeeding story. Prior to having a baby I had heard of a lip and tongue tie, had known two babies who had them revised, and nothing more of it. I thought it was something very few babies had and not something that affected so many families.

I am also writing this post because I have had so many moms reach out to me in the last few months about tongue ties, finding a preferred provider, getting revisions, and walking through really figuring out breastfeeding issues. I wanted to put together my list of thoughts, tips, and resources for you. I don’t want this to be a scary thing or to assume all babies have ties and need them revised. I’ve seen so many moms struggle and I think this issue is ignored or a mom is told she’s not cut out for breastfeeding or her baby is too “lazy”. It’s so sad. Another thing I want to say is momma gut/ intuition is powerful. I knew something was not right with Ottava’s latch. It was my gut feeling and I’m so glad I listened to it.

We are told breast is best and many moms start out with the best intentions for a successful breastfeeding relationship. Shouldn’t when we have an educational and supportive system where moms can go for help? That’s what I wish we had, but the good news is the issues of tongue and lip ties are getting more well known and we have passionate moms telling other moms and more preferred providers and lactation consultants that are starting to speak the language of ties.

What is a Tongue Tie and Lip Tie?

A tongue tie or lip tie have to to with the connecting skin under the tongue (frenulum) and the connecting skin on the upper lip (also called a frenulum). It’s when there is a piece of tissue that is too thick or extends to far forward. A lot of time you will see a tongue tie abbreviated as TT and a lip tie abbreviated as ULT (upper lip tie).

Let’s talk specifically tongue ties right now. I believe the tongue tie is the biggest factor in breastfeeding issues. The lip is an issue, but not as much as a tongue tie, which is what we saw in our case. That little piece of tissues in the tongue tie can be too far forward and, at the worst case, can tether the tongue to the floor of the mouth. It actually changes the movement of the tongue and doesn’t allow it to move in the motion needed to get milk out of the breast. If the tongue tie is too bad, it can even affect a bottle fed baby. But as a rule it’s easier to get milk out of a bottle than the breast with a tongue tie. This may sound silly, but the best analogy I have heard is the tongue should move in the motion of the dance move “the worm”. If the tongue has a tie it doesn’t allow for that movement.

To learn more about a Tongue Tie, my favorite resource is Dr. Ghaheri and he has a couple great articles about symptomatology and tongue ties and why a tie can actually be present with good baby weight gain.

A lip tie is where the frenulum of the upper lip is too thick or attached too far down towards the teeth to allow the upper lip to flange outward enough to get a good latch during breastfeeding. You want the mouth to open wide while breastfeeding and that has to do with the lip flanging outward. The contact on the breast is the baby’s mucus membrane portion of the lip vs the actual lip part. An upper lip tie (ULT) can affect breastfeeding by now allowing a proper latch. The tighter that frenulum the more likely the issues. I would “flip the lip” when Tava was first nursing by manually flipping her lip upwards. It wouldn’t help that much because she would want to tuck it right away again.

Lip ties tend to be easier to see than tongue ties. I have seen many moms assume their child doesn’t have a tongue tie because it isn’t extremely apparent. If there is an upper lip tie (ULT) present, there is a 90% chance there is also a tongue tie. They go hand in hand the vast majority of the time.

Our (Long) Tongue Tie and Lip Tie Story

Here’s our story. Ottava was born and right away loved to nurse. My milk came in quickly and I felt like we were doing a great job. She ate often, was content, and seemed to be getting a good latch. The hospital didn’t seem to think the same thing (which is one reason I love homebirth. Here’s our birth story of why we were in a hospital). The day after Ottava was born she dropped some weight. Nothing significant, but enough for them to want me to pump and syringe feed her just to be proactive. I had the worst feeling about it, but when it’s pretty much forced on you (and you’re hormonal), you say yes.

I would nurse and then pump a few mL and Phil would syringe feed her. I hated it because I didn’t want her to become confused about breastfeeding vs this syringe and how easy it was to get milk from it. We syringe fed her twice before I became so exhausted with the system and wanted to let it be for the night and just breastfeed. The next morning Ottava had lost 2 more ounces. They wouldn’t believe me when I told them it was probably because I had surgery, hadn’t eaten or drank anything in 16 hours, and was still getting my appetite back after surgery. They were concerned with her weight loss percentage, which was 9%. At 10% they would highly recommend bottle feeding your baby donated breastmilk. I was not ok with that, and thankfully her weight loss was only at 9%. I wouldn’t have let them supplement her, because she was thriving and I knew there was nothing to worry about. (Later on when we asked around, we learned breastfed babies can lose around 10% of their body weight after birth with no issues).

We had the most horrible experience with a lactation consultant at the hospital. She was rough with Ottava, really harsh, gave me this crazy nursing/ pumping schedule and told me it should take 45 minutes total (to nurse a newborn, pump, and clean up the pump), but in reality it took a good 90 minutes. I was overwhelmed by the whole interaction, crying, and incredibly discouraged. I was hormonal and working on about 7 hours of sleep in the total of 3 days. She was, by far, the worst practitioner I have seen in my life.

The reason I tell you about her is because she never checked her tongue, she said she had a high palette (hello tongue tie symptom) and made breastfeeding out to be this intense schedule with a lot of rules. Breastfeeding is natural. Yes, there are a lot of things to know and get used to throughout the process. But you can’t boil it down to this crazy schedule and discount the mom’s intuition. There is so much intuition and knowing your baby as a mom. I felt like a failure and like nobody would listen to me and I only had a 2 day old baby.

Breastfeeding photo post revision from the fabulous Gina Zeidler

Another reason I tell you this is because I look back and think, maybe her weight loss was because of her ties? In my gut I don’t feel they were related at all. But don’t you think more lactation consultants, nurses, pediatricians, etc should know about tongue and lip ties?

This pumping and nursing story has a happy ending. We got home from the hospital 2 days after Ottava was born and I was trying to get her to nurse. She was not wanting to nurse well. I was frustrated (and in some discomfort, but more on that later) and then I went to pumping. Phil gave her the syringe of milk and she gobbled it right up. Right there I knew she was preferring her easy-to-get milk from a syringe and I didn’t like that because we were determined to get this breastfeeding thing down.

I called one of our homebirth midwives Kim and told her what happened. She asked me right away “what do you think you should do? Nobody knows your baby as well as you and you’re the expert right now. What does your gut feeling say?” I told her my gut feeling was to stop pumping and just let my baby nurse when she wanted and forever long she wanted. Guess what? It was the perfect decision for us! Had I tried to follow that lactation consultants advice I would have been beyond exhausted. I can see why mom’s give up breastfeeding from a lack of support. That wasn’t support, she didn’t listen to me, get to know me, and actually help. She made breastfeeding too scientific and took out the natural instinct out of it.

Ottava’s curled up tongue when she cried due to her tongue tie. You can almost spot the tie in the photo, or at least the thick band of tissue holding her tongue down. When babies cry their tongue should be able to tough or be close to the roof of their mouth

Now I transition from how well breastfeeding was going to me knowing there was something up with how Ottava was nursing. My mindset going into breastfeeding was that I was going to make it work for a year outside of some obstacle that couldn’t be fixed. Yes, I know fed is best. For me, I wanted to breastfeed and set my mind on persevering through anything that may be hard or really hard.

At about a week old I started to get some intense discomfort with nursing. It would pass, but it was quite an issue for about a week. I know I’m not the only mom who goes through that, but I remember reading breastfeeding shouldn’t be painful (here’s a great article on pain and breastfeeding). If there’s pain, there’s an issue with the latch. That’s when I became intent on Ottava getting a good latch however long it took for us to get one. I would take her off and re-latch her about 2-5x each side for each time we nursed. I wanted that good latch I knew she was capable of and what I read about. I knew though it shouldn’t be quite that hard to get a good latch and keep one.

She clicked when she nursed on the right side. My letdown was really strong on the right side and she choked on milk a lot on that side for a couple of weeks. She would nurse every 30 minutes- 2.5 hours (except at night, she has always been a good night sleeper) and I couldn’t really leave her or else she would get hungry without me around and I didn’t know when her next hunger would strike. We suffered from mild thrush, she would projectile spit up about once/week (and didn’t spit up any other time though), and was a gassy baby during the time my milk was coming in too fast for her. We had some symptoms, but nothing big enough to be a problem at this point.

Ottava’s Heart Shaped Tongue (pre-revision)

I know this story is getting long, but I wanted to write the whole thing down. Many of my thoughts and experiences with this. I literally combed the internet for some good tongue tie stories and breastfeeding stories and wished I could have seen deeper into some mother’s stories on it. You’re getting a bigger piece of mine today.  

I really sat in this uneasiness for the first 2.5 months of her life. Some of it was adjusting to a newborn, yes. But it was that mother instinct I was telling you about that said something wasn’t quite right. I should have listened to it sooner, but I didn’t want anything “wrong” with my child, so I ignored too much of it because of that thought. I also ignored it because I didn’t know much about this topic. That has clearly changed, but I had to do all of the research for myself. I spent hours and hours on my phone looking up breastfeeding questions, challenges, latches, ties, etc… I may have made it to every tongue tie forum post on the internet. When I don’t know something, I research it to death. We decided not to give her a bottle at all because I was too scared she would prefer a bottle over breast because of the syringe incident when she was 3 days old. I worked so hard getting her to nurse well I felt the first 3 months of her life I couldn’t leave her and felt immense pressure on myself to make sure breastfeeding was successful.

Fast forward to Ottava being 2.5 months old. I still had a feeling she had a tongue tie. I had 4 people look at her and they all said she didn’t have a tie. I didn’t quite believe them in my gut. We had her adjusted (and still do regularly) and she had craniosacral therapy. After each adjustment and CST session her nursing would get better and a few days later her latch would suffer again. I decided to look up how to check for a tongue tie and get a 5th opinion.

I took pictures of her tongue and lip and asked a well respected ENT (out of state) his opinion. He said she probably had a posterior tongue tie (from the pictures) and it looked hard to diagnose, but he felt it was there. He said she had a lip tie, yet her upper lip flared well and that shouldn’t really be causing any issues. He said his opinion was to not revise anything unless we had symptoms and keep a close eye on symptoms, especially my milk supply weeks 12-16. That’s when big changes happen because mom’s transition from hormonally producing milk to strictly supply and demand.

Two thing happened two weeks later. The first was at church when in the nursing babies room. Four of us moms were nursing at the same time and Ottava took the longest to eat by 15 minutes and she was the second oldest baby there. I thought it shouldn’t take us 25-45 minutes to feed at almost 3 months old. The second thing was I noticed the smallest dip in my supply. Ottava wanted to nurse all the time during the day and I was noticing she was biting (although not painfully) when nursing to try and get the milk out. When I wasn’t nursing I would notice these sharp little shooting pain in my nipples on and off and I knew it was because of her biting versus sucking while she nursed.

I did some more research, asked some chiropractor colleagues of mine and found a dentist I trusted in the area to do her revision. I knew without a doubt she needed a revision. It was like a light switch went off in my head. We had symptoms and I knew how to fix it. We got her tongue tie revised 1 week later. I had a whole pre and post revision protocol researched with pain management tools, stretches, and what to expect. I researched that like crazy too. I was ready, at peace about it, and knew it would bring me so much peace after having that revised.

We decided at the dental office to have only her tongue revised. This dentist said she agreed that Ottava’s lip flared well and although it looked tied, shouldn’t interfere with breastfeeding going forward. Plus, I was a first time mom and didn’t want to put my kid through something else (ULT release) just because. The tongue is the main concern with breastfeeding mechanics and the lip is secondary. If you’re wondering, always choose the tongue over the lip, and if they are both significant, go with both! The dentist also said her tongue tie was a posterior tongue tie (more hidden) and although it is a little sneaky to see, it was causing quite a bit of restriction in her tongue. We opted for only the tongue tie revision (on her 3 month birthday) and after the revision was over we nursed for comfort and her latch was immediately better and we saw changes within the first few days with her nursing. We had hers revised with a laser.

Not all symptoms clear up right after the revision. I’ll get into that more later. I want to say that now because it was our experience. I believe a lot of that was because I fixed her latch all the time and really forced her into good habits although she wasn’t quite able to do them herself. The biggest change I noticed after her revision was peace for me. I wasn’t nervous and uptight that there was something that needed fixing. I knew we made the right choice and the changes I saw in our kid were confirmation of the decision.

My opinion is almost always to get the revision. Plus, it can prevent any issues in the future.

Here were the benefits we saw from her tongue tie revision:

• She became a calmer and more content baby. I thought Ottava was a little bit of a spitfire of a personality. She was fussy and demanded her way. After her revision she calmed down, and actually became a pretty laid back kiddo
• She sucked while nursing instead of biting. I could visualize a change in her nursing mechanics and knew afterwards because my nipples weren’t flattened after nursing
• She got milk out faster and our nursing session time went down significantly. We used to nurse for 30 minutes on average and it went to 15 minutes. There was one time she nursed for 8 minutes and was full and content until the next feeding
• She stopped clicking while nursing
• She stopped getting a crease above her lip after nursing (you’ll see what that looks like in the picture below)
• She stopped spitting up at all (she has only spit up about 5x total since she was 3 months old, and it was maybe 10x before that)
• I stopped having to fix her latch. After the first week or two I didn’t have to fi her latch. We would nurse with the lamp on at night because I couldn’t tell in the dark if she got a good latch or not. After the revision I could nurse in the dark because I knew she had a good latch without checking, fixing, and looking with a light. Our night time feeding time was cut in half too which meant more sleep for me
• I stopped counting the minutes she was nursing and trusted her and my body more. Overall I became so much more relaxed
• I didn’t have those small shooting pains in my nipples after nursing

We are still successfully nursing and going strong 14.4 months in!!

Waiting at the dentist for her upper lip tie revision

Once Ottava’s front teeth came in it was evident she had a major lip tie. Although breastfeeding was going great, I knew that tie needed to be revised sometime. Whether now, around 3-4, or before her permanent teeth would come in around age 7. We opted for now after the advice from some other crunchy mom’s with ULT knowledge. We had the same dentist revise and it went great. She used some local anesthetic on the area (per my asking) and it didn’t phase Ottava one bit. She didn’t miss a step or a meal or anything. The only change I’ve seen in her nursing is that she is less distracted while nursing. I’m not sure what the change was, but feeding seem a bit easier now.

Symptoms of Lip and Tongue Ties

Now you know our entire story, let’s dive into tongue and lip tie symptoms. Before that, this is the time where I tell you if your kiddo has a lip or tongue tie it doesn’t mean something is wrong with them. It means there’s is a little piece of tissue in the way of normal mechanics that can be easily fixed. I thought something was wrong with my baby if she had a tie and I ignored getting it looked at for too long because of that.

And one more thing… I don’t want you to assume all babies have ties. Some don’t. And some babies with ties are fine until symptoms arise (if they arise at all). I wouldn’t revise if there are no symptoms. Would I have revised Ottava’s sooner? Maybe in hindsight. But only by a few weeks because before that we really didn’t have enough symptoms to warrant a revision. It can take newborns a little while to get nursing down and if there are symptoms past a few days, then I’d start thinking about a revision.

Here is a visual graphic of some of baby’s visual symptoms from a tongue or lip tie. I found this graphic extremely helpful when I was researching what was going on with Ottava’s latch and nursing. Ottava had 1, 2, 4, 5 (when we had super mild thrush), 6, 8,9. This graphic made it clear to me we were dealing with a tie of some sort.

• Here is an article of how a tongue tie affects breastfeeding mechanics, Read it Here
• Step-by-step guide to checking for a tongue tie from Mommypotamus: Read Here

How to Evaluate for a Tongue or Lip Tie

I have been known to check a few of my friends babies for tongue ties. It’s actually pretty easy, but the hard part is to do it the correct way. Here is the best way to check for a tongue tie, especially those posterior tongue ties.

This is a horrible picture. But it shows her sneaky posterior tongue tie. I’m at the top of her head pulling in on her tongue and Phil is taking the picture. You can see the tight band of tissue that doesn’t allow her tongue to move properly. 

This is an article on how you check for a tongue and lip tie. If you’re confused at all, find a preferred provider (via this Facebook Group) and ask the trained dentist or ENT.

Here is a video on how to check for a tongue tie, specifically a posterior tongue tie:

A lot of people feel like a tongue tie has to be so severe for it to warrant revision. Some say it has to completely tether the tongue down. I’ve also heard things like “there’s no such thing as a posterior tie” or “posterior ties don’t cause problems”. That’s not true. There’s really no difference in an anterior vs a posterior tongue tie. Why? It’s the entire tongue, front and back, that needs to work properly for breastfeeding to be successful. I hear mom’s say that their baby’s tongue tie was snipped quickly in the pediatricians office or hospital and it didn’t make a difference. I would bet the posterior portion of the tie wasn’t released. There is a proper and needed release of the tongue and the anterior (if present) part of the tie tie and posterior part of the tie (always present) needs to be fully released for the revision to be successful.

Here is a great article on the irrelevant difference between an anterior and posterior tongue tie.

Checking a lip tie can be a lot easier. The biggest thing is that you flip the lip up. It can be hard to see a normal frenulum vs a tie, but it has to do with the flaring of the lip. If it’s very restricted you can feel that restriction. I always recommend seeing a preferred and skilled provider to double check. Don’t feel like you have to be an expert, remember, trust your momma instincts.

Revision and Post Frenotomy Care

There are to extremely important parts to tongue tie revisions. Number one is finding a preferred provider who is trained in the proper revision of a TT and ULT. The second is the stretches afterwards. The mouth heals quickly and you have to do stretches for at least 3 weeks post revision to prevent a reattachment. They are so important you don’t want to miss a stretch and potentially have to re-revise. Do it right the first time with a proper practitioner and being serious and diligent with stretches afterwards.

How do you find a good preferred provider? This Tongue Tie Babies Facebook group. There are a lot of posts and stories and some can be a bit overwhelming. I’m telling you to proceed with caution, but it is a helpful group. They have a pinned post with a link to preferred providers. Mot states also have their own tongue tie group you can join and ask specific questions.

What are the Post Revision Stretches? I recommend knowing the stretches before you have the revision so you’re ready to go after the revision. Here is the best article for stretches and the only one you need. The best advice I was given was to use the side of your finger for the tongue stretches. You don’t want to poke the area. You just get in there, do the stretches quickly before nursing (or feeding) and then nurse quickly so they forget about the stretches. After the first couple of days there will be no more pain and the stretches will become annoying to your baby. They may fuss or cry but it’s mostly  because they don’t like your finger in their mouth. I’ll say it again, when you do the stretches, make sure to use the side of your finer, not the tip of your finder. You can get a better stretch and not worry about poking the sore tongue area.

Here is an article on the important of aftercare following a tongue or lip tie revision. 

How do you manage pain post revision? I would also recommend having these ready to go before the revision. I gave Ottava a dose of Arnica before both revisions.

• Arnica drops: I put 10 tablets of 200C Arnica in a 2 ounce glass dropper bottle (I got mine at the our co-op. Whole Foods or online has them too). Fill the rest with breastmilk and store in the fridge. Give 10 drops every 60-90 minutes. I let Ottava sleep at night as long as she wanted and she slept really well, I didn’t wake her to manage pain. Tylenol would be a last resort option, and in my opinion used only after everything else has been tried and baby won’t latch or eat. Ottava was fine and after the first day wasn’t in any more pain, I really don’t know if she had pain after the procedure but kept up the Arnica for the first 4 days, reducing the frequency each day on how much I was giving her.
• Teething Gel: I had this but it was so hard to get that in her mouth and do the stretches so I don’t think it really helped. I don’t think I’d buy this again or try it again
• Rescue Remedy Kids Drops: I got the rescue remedy drops and put a couple of drops on the top of her head and a couple of drops on the back of her neck 2x/day. They say it helps with pain and stress that may come with healing. For her lip tie at 13 months I did give these to her orally. I like this because it helps release stress, I’m sure there’s stress involved with the procedure

Sucking Exercises Post Revision (different than stretches) There are also different sucking exercises you can do. They are more “fun” and aren’t stretches that baby may hate. These should be done when baby is happy and should not be stressful at all.

Suck Retraining Exercises (From a Chiropractor colleague of mine)

Suck Strengthening Careplan

Tongue Exercises

Suck Training (If needing to use SNS): Supplemental Nursing System (SNS) exercises and help

Pre and Post Revision Body Work: 

I recommend all babies get adjusted from birth. It’s so important for their health and their development and to make sure their muscles and body are balanced. Some breastfeeding issues can be corrected through adjustments and body work alone. Ottava’s latch got better after adjustments and a lot better after Craniosacral therapy (CST). For her there was more that needed to be corrected, like her tongue tie.

My recommendations and I strongly encourage this. It can get forgotten in the mix of things. Get baby adjusted before and after the revision. I would also recommend Craniosacral therapy before and after too by someone who is trained with babies. It helps them adjust to the new movements their tongue can make.

I would also recommend seeing a highly trained lactation consultant after the revision too. We didn’t need one because Ottava was a good nurser and transitioned very well into nursing post revision. Babies start using their tongues at the beginning of the third trimester and drink amniotic fluid to prepare for nursing. When they are born they are used to using their tongue the way it is for 3 months. It can take some help in re-learning how to nurse.

Finding a lactation consultant that is knowledgeable post tongue tie revisions is the most helpful. Ask for help, hire one if you need to. It can make a big difference from a baby who is used to nursing with a nipple shield or being exclusively bottle fed pumped breastmilk or when you have to relearn how to go back to breast.

What to expect Post Revision? 

Ottava taking a 3 hour nap post revision doing skin to skin contact. Yes, she slept on me for 3 whole hours! 

This was such a big question I had. What do I expect? I was so worried we’d have a horrible day and she would be off for a week or more. It was easier than I thought but I was glad I planned for a stressful day just in case. She was 3 months old, still pretty young to fully know what was going on.

After the revision babies usually have a mega nap. That happened with both of Ottava’s revisions. Her first revision she slept for 3 hours on me (see above picture) and after her lip tie revision last month she slept for almost 4 hours. Expect them to sleep a lot right after the revision or for the rest of the day.

After her tongue tie we did lots of skin to skin like she was newborn. That helps with pain management too. We didn’t after her lip tie because she was so much older and it literally didn’t phase her. She snuggled me for a little bit and after her nap she acted like nothing happened.

When Ottava woke up from her 3 hour nap after her tongue tie revision I could tell her tongue was sore and she was fighting to nurse. It was the first time I had a mini freak out moment. I didn’t want her to go on a nursing strike or feel stressed out. She was crying because she was hungry and didn’t know what was going on. I gave her more arnica and I got in the bath with her because that can help them calm down and help with pain management. I know I want to be in the bath when I’m not feeling great. It calmed her down but she would still get worked up when she tried to latch. We got out of the bath, got her wrapped up snuggly in a towel and she finally nursed after that. It was the only time she seemed phased by the revision and after that we had no issue with latching or pain management. I have heard some kids have a flare of pain or discomfort around days 4-5. I didn’t experience that at all with Ottava, but I wanted to mention it anyways in case you see that in your baby.

When do you expect changes? 

Expect to see changes anywhere from immediately to 6 weeks. It takes time for them to relearn how to use their tongue and flare their lip. Changes can come all at once or very slowly. Keep encouraging a good latch and doing exercises and stretches. Find natural practitioners for chiropractic care, body work, lactation help and lean on them as much as you need to.

Stay Encouraged!

Changes do come!

Testimonials

I asked on Instagram (this post) a couple of weeks ago about other’s tongue tie stories. I wanted testimonials because I wasn’t the only one with a story about how a revision helped breastfeeding and nursing. I got so many responses and had to share some with you!

At my daughter’s two week checkup, I mentioned continued pain with nursing, colic symptoms, and my daughter’s sensitive gag reflex. The doctor recommended I go for a consultation at a local dentist who provides laser TT/LT revisions. We went the following week and the dentist was amazing!! He talked with me for 45 minutes beforehand about the benefits of the revision and what I could expect. I was able to stay in the room and talk to and help hold my sweet girl during the procedure. We both cried! It was so hard to see your baby go through! As soon as I picked her up from the chair after the procedure she calmed right down! I was able to go to a special room right afterward and nurse her. It was’t pain free right away for me but I could tell a difference already! We went home and did a lot of skin-to-skin and nursing to get through the initial pain. The pain quickly diminished for me and her gag relax improved. I cannot say it necessarily helped with her colic but it certainly didn’t make it any worse! If I am being totally honest the worst part was the stretches I had to do for 6 weeks afterward. I dreaded doing them and we would both cry and cry during and after I finished them each time. I was able to finish the stretches on Christmas Eve and told my daughter it was the best Christmas gift either of us could have received! I had a really good friend who helped to encourage me through the rough days of the stretches! There is quite the amount of controversy out there about whether or not TT/LT are real or necessary to be corrected but I can not imagine what our nursing relationship would have been like if we had not had the revision! Thank you for telling our stories!! I think this is an often overlooked problem with breastfeeding especially! -Jamie

Wren had lip/tongue tie revision at 8 weeks. It was key to our, still strong, bfing journey! Arnica/frozen bmilk chips and lots of nursing healed her up so fast. It was a tough choice at first but man im glad we did it. I think the key is to go to a specialist and you get the best results. We also did Chiropractic before and after the revision. -Annie

My LO is 5 mo and we had her tongue and lip ties revised at 2 weeks old. Best decision ever. My 4 yo also has ties that we never had revised (I was a young mom and didn’t know any better at the time) and we are finding that she has speech difficulties. My pediatric dentist was saying that ties can not only effect feedings but speech too. He was also telling me that they’re finding a link between tongue ties and sleep apnea later on in life so adults are having their ties revised. I just thought that was so interesting. Now I’m debating if I should have my 4yo go in and have hers revised. -Amy

Yup! Arthur was a CHUBBY baby who had a tongue and lip tie done at three or four weeks. We were nursing every single hour because he was struggling so much to have a good latch! We made it through though! -Teea

We had our sons lip tie revised at 3 weeks and noticed an immediate help in eliminating the pain we were having while nursing! we were aware of the possibility of a tongue tie (knew it ran in the family) but had no idea a lip tie existed?! -Katlyn